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SAP GraphQL in CAPm (node.js)SAP GraphQL in CAPm (node.js)Adding the GraphQL protocol adapter to a CAP project when it was new — an entity, some data, the feature switched on, and a check that it answers. Short, and it is the earliest account here of CAP speaking something other than OData.enric101, published 2021-11-29
ODataSAP and community
Create a Business Service using CDS, Node.js, SQLite and a OData serviceCreate a Business Service using CDS, Node.js, SQLite and a OData serviceThe stack at its smallest — CDS, Node, SQLite, an OData service — worked through at length. Nothing cloud in it, which is the point: it is the shape of a CAP service before any of the platform arrives.raybanton, published 2021-07-12
Create a Business Service using CDS, Node.js, SQLite and a OData service
Database connectors has changed twice since this was published, most recently in @sap/cds 10.1.0, 2026-09-07. Affects A recipe, Runnable code.
Custom Functions in OData V4 – SAP Cloud Application Programming ModelCustom Functions in OData V4 – SAP Cloud Application Programming ModelFunctions rather than actions, and the distinction is where it starts: a function must return data and must never change any, so it is the read-only half of custom operations. Then how to declare and implement one on a CAP service.Roopa_N, published 2021-04-28
Custom Functions in OData V4 – SAP Cloud Application Programming Model
OData changed in @cap-js-community/odata-v2-adapter 1.10.0, 2023-04-05. Affects A recipe.
SAP BTP SDK for iOS & CAP with OData V4 supportSAP BTP SDK for iOS & CAP with OData V4 supportThe iOS SDK gaining OData V4, which until then made connecting a native app to a CAP service awkward — CAP defaults to v4 and the SDK did not speak it. Short, and it marks the date that stopped being a problem.KRiedelsheimer, published 2021-04-21
SAP Cloud Application Programming Model: Deep Insert (4) Consume Remote ServiceSAP Cloud Application Programming Model: Deep Insert (4) Consume Remote ServiceFourth in a long series on deep insert, and the one where the target stops being local. Twenty thousand characters, project files linked, and the earlier parts on UUIDs and multi-level structures are prerequisites the author names.CarlosRoggan, published 2019-07-24
SAP Cloud Application Programming Model: Deep Insert (4) Consume Remote Service
Destinations changed in @sap-cloud-sdk/connectivity 4.0.0, 2025-03-04. Affects A recipe, Runnable code.
SAP Cloud Application Programming Model: Deep Insert (5) Consume Remote Service with SAP Cloud SDKSAP Cloud Application Programming Model: Deep Insert (5) Consume Remote Service with SAP Cloud SDKThe same thing again through SAP Cloud SDK, published as a deliberate comparison with the part before it — the author says outright that it does what the previous post did, differently. Reading both is how you see what the SDK is actually doing for you.CarlosRoggan, published 2019-07-26
SAP Cloud Application Programming Model: Deep Insert (5) Consume Remote Service with SAP Cloud SDK
Destinations changed in @sap-cloud-sdk/connectivity 4.0.0, 2025-03-04. Affects Runnable code.
The End2End Journey: Advocates Service – CAP Service, OData V2/4 & REST in One single ProjectThe End2End Journey: Advocates Service – CAP Service, OData V2/4 & REST in One single ProjectOne CAP service exposing OData V2, OData V4 and REST at the same time, which is unusual enough to be worth the read on its own. Part of an end-to-end series, deployed on Cloud Foundry against HANA Cloud, so the protocol question sits inside a whole application rather than a snippet.KRiedelsheimer, published 2021-05-06
The End2End Journey: Advocates Service – CAP Service, OData V2/4 & REST in One single Project
OData changed in @cap-js-community/odata-v2-adapter 1.10.0, 2023-04-05. Affects A recipe, Runnable code.
OpenAPIUnmapped
Swagger UI | SAP BTP Extension Generators | Hands-on Video TutorialsSwagger UI | SAP BTP Extension Generators | Hands-on Video TutorialsA blog post wrapped around a video playlist from the SAP HANA Academy — Swagger UI for CDS, added to the BTP extension generator series. The written half is an ingredients list and a table of contents; the substance is in the recordings.dvankempen, published 2021-07-09
WebSocketUnmapped
CAP WebSocketsCAP WebSocketsThe early one, from 2021, before an adapter existed to make it ordinary. Read for what the problem looked like when it had to be solved by hand.vvdries, published 2021-01-26
Analytical queriesUnmapped
Discovering SAP Fiori Elements Analytical functions by implementing SAP Support Message ReportingDiscovering SAP Fiori Elements Analytical functions by implementing SAP Support Message ReportingAnalytical annotations learned by building something the author wanted — a view over SAP support messages — after a conversation in February 2021 that the post dates precisely. Exploration written up as exploration.published 2021-03-14
Predictive Asset Insights embedded Live analytics using CAP and SACPredictive Asset Insights embedded Live analytics using CAP and SACCAP as the layer between a line-of-business application's data and a live Analytics Cloud story embedded back into it — master data and operational data both. Structured as ten steps, which keeps it honest about how much of this is configuration rather than modelling.Saif, published 2021-07-18
Data modellingSAP only
Computed field example in CAPComputed field example in CAPAn answer to a Community question — how to count the entities on the far side of an association — written up as a short post rather than left in a thread. The answer combines CDS with Node.js service events, which is the seam worth noticing: some of what looks like modelling is expressed in the model and some has to be computed when the request arrives, and the boundary between them is not obvious from either side.published 2019-08-21
Computed field example in CAP
Data modelling has changed 3 times since this was published, most recently in @sap/cds 9.9.0, 2026-04-23. Affects A recipe, Runnable code.
Creating structured types, enums and named aspects using the CDS Graphical ModelerCreating structured types, enums and named aspects using the CDS Graphical ModelerThe modelling constructs that are awkward to draw — structured types, enums, named aspects — done in the graphical modeller rather than in CDL.Xiao-fei_Song, published 2021-05-26
Database connectorsSAP only
Create a Business Service using CDS, Node.js, SQLite and a OData serviceCreate a Business Service using CDS, Node.js, SQLite and a OData serviceThe stack at its smallest — CDS, Node, SQLite, an OData service — worked through at length. Nothing cloud in it, which is the point: it is the shape of a CAP service before any of the platform arrives.raybanton, published 2021-07-12
Create a Business Service using CDS, Node.js, SQLite and a OData service
Database connectors has changed twice since this was published, most recently in @sap/cds 10.1.0, 2026-09-07. Affects A recipe, Runnable code.
Deploying CAP services with the in-memory SQLite databaseDeploying CAP services with the in-memory SQLite databaseIn-memory, deployed to Cloud Foundry — so the data is gone on restart, on purpose. For a service whose datastore does not need to survive anything, which is a narrower case than it sounds and a real one.liam_mischewski, published 2021-05-24
My Learnings in SAP-CAP Using MongoDBMy Learnings in SAP-CAP Using MongoDBCAP against a document database, which the supported list does not include — and the way it gets there is the point. The CDS model and the service definitions stay; the persistence is replaced by handlers calling the mongodb driver, with @sap/cds-odata-v2-adapter-proxy in front so a UI5 application can consume it. Learnings rather than a supported path, and the only MongoDB entry here.published 2021-01-11
My Learnings in SAP-CAP Using MongoDB
sap-cap-mongodb: no published releases, repository quiet for 69 months. Affects Runnable code.
SAP BTP Showcase - Use SAP Cloud Application Programming to do Native Development on HANA CloudSAP BTP Showcase - Use SAP Cloud Application Programming to do Native Development on HANA CloudThe fifth of a seven-post showcase, and the one where CAP is used to reach HANA-native artifacts rather than to avoid them. Long, and it sits inside a series whose other parts are about Data Warehouse Cloud and CI/CD.former_member271284, published 2021-01-31
SAP BTP Showcase - Use SAP Cloud Application Programming to do Native Development on HANA Cloud
Database connectors has changed twice since this was published, most recently in @sap/cds 10.1.0, 2026-09-07. Affects A recipe, Runnable code.
SAP BTP Showcase – SAP Continuous Integration and Delivery (SAP CI&D) for SAP HANA CloudSAP BTP Showcase – SAP Continuous Integration and Delivery (SAP CI&D) for SAP HANA CloudA pipeline for the database half of a CAP application, built with cds add pipeline — one command that writes a Jenkinsfile and a .pipeline folder — and then the mta module that makes a database change deploy itself.gcalixtos, published 2021-01-27
SAP BTP Showcase – SAP Continuous Integration and Delivery (SAP CI&D) for SAP HANA Cloud
Database connectors has changed twice since this was published, most recently in @sap/cds 10.1.0, 2026-09-07. Affects Runnable code.
SAP Business Application Studio – Using SAP HANA Tools with SAP Cloud Application Programming Model projectsSAP Business Application Studio – Using SAP HANA Tools with SAP Cloud Application Programming Model projectsNative HDB artifacts inside a CAP project — the case where CDS is not enough and something has to be written as a database object. Most of the work is making the two build outputs agree: an HDB module path, a CDS build output directory, and a package.json for the module, before the artifact is added and deployed. Published under an account that has since been closed, so the byline reads Former Member.Former Member, published 2021-01-14
SAP Business Application Studio – Using SAP HANA Tools with SAP Cloud Application Programming Model projects
Database connectors has changed twice since this was published, most recently in @sap/cds 10.1.0, 2026-09-07. Affects A recipe, Runnable code.
Simple steps to deploy your CAP project to HANA cloudSimple steps to deploy your CAP project to HANA cloudWritten from the far side of a failed deploy — the author says these are the troubleshooting steps that ended up working, not a designed procedure. Short, and honest about being a record rather than a recommendation.OmPrakashJha, published 2021-02-11
Native SAP HANA artifactsUnmapped
How to share tables across different CAP projectsHow to share tables across different CAP projectsFour scenarios for reading one CAP project's table from another, worked out as a matrix of what each one needs: the same HDI container and namespace, the same container under a different namespace, a different container, and a different Cloud Foundry space. The mechanics change with each step — @cds.persistence.exists on the reused entity throughout, an .hdbsynonym once namespaces diverge, .hdbrole and .hdbgrants once containers do, and a user-provided service built from the grantor's credentials once spaces do. The author flags the caveat themselves: these are learning scenarios, and consuming the OData service is often the better answer than reaching into another project's database. Dated corrections from twelve days after publication sit inline — synonyms need only the name because the configuration comes from .hdbsynonymconfig, SERVICE_REPLACEMENTS in mta.yaml removes the hard-coded service name, and the reused container need not be bound to the srv module.published 2021-10-03
DestinationsSAP only
SAP CAP Remote Services & SAP Fiori ElementsSAP CAP Remote Services & SAP Fiori ElementsWhat happens to a generated UI when the data is not local: a CAP service projecting a remote one, with Fiori elements on top. The author explored it to find out where the abstraction holds, which is the useful register for this.Former Member, published 2021-05-20
SAP CAP Remote Services & SAP Fiori Elements
Fiori annotations changed in @sap/cds-dk 9.6.0, 2025-12-17. Affects A recipe, Runnable code.
SAP Cloud Application Programming Model: Deep Insert (4) Consume Remote ServiceSAP Cloud Application Programming Model: Deep Insert (4) Consume Remote ServiceFourth in a long series on deep insert, and the one where the target stops being local. Twenty thousand characters, project files linked, and the earlier parts on UUIDs and multi-level structures are prerequisites the author names.CarlosRoggan, published 2019-07-24
SAP Cloud Application Programming Model: Deep Insert (4) Consume Remote Service
Destinations changed in @sap-cloud-sdk/connectivity 4.0.0, 2025-03-04. Affects A recipe, Runnable code.
SAP Cloud Application Programming Model: Deep Insert (5) Consume Remote Service with SAP Cloud SDKSAP Cloud Application Programming Model: Deep Insert (5) Consume Remote Service with SAP Cloud SDKThe same thing again through SAP Cloud SDK, published as a deliberate comparison with the part before it — the author says outright that it does what the previous post did, differently. Reading both is how you see what the SDK is actually doing for you.CarlosRoggan, published 2019-07-26
SAP Cloud Application Programming Model: Deep Insert (5) Consume Remote Service with SAP Cloud SDK
Destinations changed in @sap-cloud-sdk/connectivity 4.0.0, 2025-03-04. Affects Runnable code.
Event MeshSAP only
CAP - Specifying the queues to be consumed from SAP Event MeshCAP - Specifying the queues to be consumed from SAP Event MeshWritten against the edge of the convention rather than the convention. CAP creates one queue per application and names it for you; this is the case where the queue already exists, belongs to someone else, or there is more than one of them. The oldest Event Mesh post indexed here, and the only one about taking the naming back.schardosin, published 2021-06-21
AuthorizationSAP only
Insights of Cloud SDK, CAP, XSUAA, SSH and other BTP topics from 2021Insights of Cloud SDK, CAP, XSUAA, SSH and other BTP topics from 2021A year in review, and one section in it is the reason it is here: "CAP isn't the solution for everything" — the author's point being that a pure UI5 or Fiori application does not need a CAP service wrapped around it, and that an approuter or the HTML5 Application Repository may be the better answer. The XSUAA section is a complaint about complexity rather than a guide, which is also worth having on the record.dr_vup, published 2021-12-30
DeploymentCommunity only
Deploying CAP services with the in-memory SQLite databaseDeploying CAP services with the in-memory SQLite databaseIn-memory, deployed to Cloud Foundry — so the data is gone on restart, on purpose. For a service whose datastore does not need to survive anything, which is a narrower case than it sounds and a real one.liam_mischewski, published 2021-05-24
From R/3 ABAP to CAP/Fiori Elements on SAP BTP- DeploymentFrom R/3 ABAP to CAP/Fiori Elements on SAP BTP- DeploymentThe doing half: the steps and the code that got the application from the first post deployed and working. Shorter, and it assumes the argument has already been made.former_member231477, published 2021-04-30
From R/3 ABAP to CAP/Fiori Elements on SAP BTP- Deployment
Fiori annotations changed in @sap/cds-dk 9.6.0, 2025-12-17. Affects Runnable code.
Simple steps to deploy your CAP project to HANA cloudSimple steps to deploy your CAP project to HANA cloudWritten from the far side of a failed deploy — the author says these are the troubleshooting steps that ended up working, not a designed procedure. Short, and honest about being a record rather than a recommendation.OmPrakashJha, published 2021-02-11
MultitenancySAP only
Multitenant application using Cloud Application Programming Model (CAP)Multitenant application using Cloud Application Programming Model (CAP)A worked multitenant application on the Java SDK with the mtx sidecar beside it — the arrangement where provisioning lives in a separate Node process even when the application is Java. Includes the UI module, so the subscription is visible end to end.former_member733211, published 2021-05-19
Multitenant application using Cloud Application Programming Model (CAP)
Multitenancy has changed twice since this was published, most recently in @sap/cds 7.0.0, 2023-06-22. Affects A recipe, Runnable code.
Multitenant Business Applications with CAP | Hands-on Video TutorialsMultitenant Business Applications with CAP | Hands-on Video TutorialsA hands-on video series from the SAP HANA Academy on building multitenant applications with CAP, with the written post as its index. Referenced by other posts here as the more current alternative to their own text.dvankempen, published 2021-06-03
CI/CD pipelinesSAP only
SAP BTP Showcase – SAP Continuous Integration and Delivery (SAP CI&D) for SAP HANA CloudSAP BTP Showcase – SAP Continuous Integration and Delivery (SAP CI&D) for SAP HANA CloudA pipeline for the database half of a CAP application, built with cds add pipeline — one command that writes a Jenkinsfile and a .pipeline folder — and then the mta module that makes a database change deploy itself.gcalixtos, published 2021-01-27
SAP BTP Showcase – SAP Continuous Integration and Delivery (SAP CI&D) for SAP HANA Cloud
Database connectors has changed twice since this was published, most recently in @sap/cds 10.1.0, 2026-09-07. Affects Runnable code.
DebuggingSAP and community
debug a CAP app with UI5 TypeScript UI component with VS Codedebug a CAP app with UI5 TypeScript UI component with VS CodeDebugging both runtimes at once — the CAP server and a UI5 component written in TypeScript, the latter stepped through in its own sources rather than in the transpiled output. Written when TypeScript for UI5 had just become possible, and the combination it sets up is the one CAP's app folder invites.published 2021-11-16
Editor supportSAP and community
An introduction to CDS Graphical Modeler for SAP Business Application StudioAn introduction to CDS Graphical Modeler for SAP Business Application StudioThe announcement of the graphical modeller, from the team that built it — what it draws, how to get a dev space that has it, and what it is for. The starting point for the two posts that follow it, and the record of when this became part of the editor rather than an idea.Xiao-fei_Song, published 2021-04-23
Creating structured types, enums and named aspects using the CDS Graphical ModelerCreating structured types, enums and named aspects using the CDS Graphical ModelerThe modelling constructs that are awkward to draw — structured types, enums, named aspects — done in the graphical modeller rather than in CDL.Xiao-fei_Song, published 2021-05-26
Storyboard for cloud business applications using CAP in SAP Business Application StudioStoryboard for cloud business applications using CAP in SAP Business Application StudioThe first release of the Storyboard, written by the team shipping it. Where the graphical modeller draws the data model, this draws the application: its logical components and the connections between them, alongside an application explorer enhanced in the same release. Short, and it reads as an announcement — the fuller account of using it is Aryan_Raj_Sinha's post two years later.liat_b, published 2021-02-15
Tips and Tricks for Working with Annotations in CAP Projects using Language Server Protocol (LSP) capabilitiesTips and Tricks for Working with Annotations in CAP Projects using Language Server Protocol (LSP) capabilitiesFour settings, from somebody who works on the annotation language server. The premise is the interesting part: CAP's annotation syntax is looser than ABAP CDS or EDMX — a record can be written with or without an explicit type — so the completion has to guess how verbose you want it, and this is where you tell it. Then filtering the completion list, reading the icons, ordering diagnostics by severity, and turning i18n problems on only when you want them.maryana_naboka, published 2021-10-25
Use Tasks in Visual Studio Code to start a cds service, an approuter and launch a browser in one goUse Tasks in Visual Studio Code to start a cds service, an approuter and launch a browser in one gocds watch serves the service and the app folder but not the approuter, so anything needing a JWT means a second terminal started by hand. This replaces that with a VS Code task definition — the tasks.json is in the post — so the whole local stack comes up on one command.pieterjanssens, published 2021-04-09
Use Tasks in Visual Studio Code to start a cds service, an approuter and launch a browser in one go
Local development has changed twice since this was published, most recently in @sap/cds-dk 7.9.1, 2024-05-02. Affects Runnable code.
Local developmentSAP only
Use Tasks in Visual Studio Code to start a cds service, an approuter and launch a browser in one goUse Tasks in Visual Studio Code to start a cds service, an approuter and launch a browser in one gocds watch serves the service and the app folder but not the approuter, so anything needing a JWT means a second terminal started by hand. This replaces that with a VS Code task definition — the tasks.json is in the post — so the whole local stack comes up on one command.pieterjanssens, published 2021-04-09
Use Tasks in Visual Studio Code to start a cds service, an approuter and launch a browser in one go
Local development has changed twice since this was published, most recently in @sap/cds-dk 7.9.1, 2024-05-02. Affects Runnable code.
TypeScript patternsDoes not apply
Full Stack TypeScript App for Cloud Foundry - Sample RepositoryFull Stack TypeScript App for Cloud Foundry - Sample RepositoryA whole repository rather than a snippet: a CAP Node.js service and a freestyle SAPUI5 application, both in TypeScript, arranged for Cloud Foundry. The build process gets its own section, which is where a TypeScript full-stack project usually goes wrong.former_member66, published 2021-12-09
Full Stack TypeScript App for Cloud Foundry - Sample Repository
TypeScript patterns changed in @cap-js/cds-typer 0.5.0, 2023-07-25. Affects A recipe, Runnable code.
Fiori annotationsSAP only
Build SAP Overview Page using SAP HANA Cloud & SAP CAP service annotations in Visual Studio CodeBuild SAP Overview Page using SAP HANA Cloud & SAP CAP service annotations in Visual Studio CodeAn Overview Page — the card-based Fiori elements floorplan, less written about than the list report — driven entirely from annotations on a CAP service, in VS Code rather than Business Application Studio.Sai_Nithesh_G, published 2021-08-05
Build SAP Overview Page using SAP HANA Cloud & SAP CAP service annotations in Visual Studio Code
Fiori annotations changed in @sap/cds-dk 9.6.0, 2025-12-17. Affects A recipe, Runnable code.
Create an SAP Fiori Elements UI for CAP Node.js applications in SAP Business Application StudioCreate an SAP Fiori Elements UI for CAP Node.js applications in SAP Business Application StudioWritten the week Fiori elements gained OData V4 support, which is what made a generated List Report over a CAP Node.js service possible at all. Short, and dated in the useful sense — it marks when the generator stopped being a V2-only path.liat_b, published 2021-01-11
From R/3 ABAP to CAP/Fiori Elements on SAP BTP- DeploymentFrom R/3 ABAP to CAP/Fiori Elements on SAP BTP- DeploymentThe doing half: the steps and the code that got the application from the first post deployed and working. Shorter, and it assumes the argument has already been made.former_member231477, published 2021-04-30
From R/3 ABAP to CAP/Fiori Elements on SAP BTP- Deployment
Fiori annotations changed in @sap/cds-dk 9.6.0, 2025-12-17. Affects Runnable code.
From R/3 ABAP to CAP/Fiori Elements on SAP CloudFrom R/3 ABAP to CAP/Fiori Elements on SAP CloudWritten by an ABAP developer of fourteen years explaining what changed and what did not — the argument being that CAP kept the focus on business logic that ABAP had, where learning UI5 and a framework or two had not. The reasoning half of a pair.former_member231477, published 2021-03-24
From R/3 ABAP to CAP/Fiori Elements on SAP Cloud
Fiori annotations changed in @sap/cds-dk 9.6.0, 2025-12-17. Affects Runnable code.
SAP CAP Remote Services & SAP Fiori ElementsSAP CAP Remote Services & SAP Fiori ElementsWhat happens to a generated UI when the data is not local: a CAP service projecting a remote one, with Fiori elements on top. The author explored it to find out where the abstraction holds, which is the useful register for this.Former Member, published 2021-05-20
SAP CAP Remote Services & SAP Fiori Elements
Fiori annotations changed in @sap/cds-dk 9.6.0, 2025-12-17. Affects A recipe, Runnable code.
The SAP Fiori elements feature showcase with CAP CDS annotationsThe SAP Fiori elements feature showcase with CAP CDS annotationsThe feature showcase, which is the closest thing to a reference for what the annotations can do, presented here with its CAP CDS side. Short, because the value is in what it points at.stefaniehager, published 2021-12-07
Tips and Tricks for Working with Annotations in CAP Projects using Language Server Protocol (LSP) capabilitiesTips and Tricks for Working with Annotations in CAP Projects using Language Server Protocol (LSP) capabilitiesFour settings, from somebody who works on the annotation language server. The premise is the interesting part: CAP's annotation syntax is looser than ABAP CDS or EDMX — a record can be written with or without an explicit type — so the completion has to guess how verbose you want it, and this is where you tell it. Then filtering the completion list, reading the icons, ordering diagnostics by severity, and turning i18n problems on only when you want them.maryana_naboka, published 2021-10-25
Reference appsCommunity only
Full Stack TypeScript App for Cloud Foundry - Sample RepositoryFull Stack TypeScript App for Cloud Foundry - Sample RepositoryA whole repository rather than a snippet: a CAP Node.js service and a freestyle SAPUI5 application, both in TypeScript, arranged for Cloud Foundry. The build process gets its own section, which is where a TypeScript full-stack project usually goes wrong.former_member66, published 2021-12-09
Full Stack TypeScript App for Cloud Foundry - Sample Repository
TypeScript patterns changed in @cap-js/cds-typer 0.5.0, 2023-07-25. Affects A recipe, Runnable code.
The End2End Journey: Advocates Service – CAP Service, OData V2/4 & REST in One single ProjectThe End2End Journey: Advocates Service – CAP Service, OData V2/4 & REST in One single ProjectOne CAP service exposing OData V2, OData V4 and REST at the same time, which is unusual enough to be worth the read on its own. Part of an end-to-end series, deployed on Cloud Foundry against HANA Cloud, so the protocol question sits inside a whole application rather than a snippet.KRiedelsheimer, published 2021-05-06
The End2End Journey: Advocates Service – CAP Service, OData V2/4 & REST in One single Project
OData changed in @cap-js-community/odata-v2-adapter 1.10.0, 2023-04-05. Affects A recipe, Runnable code.
Under no capability
CAP is important because it's not importantCAP is important because it's not importantAn essay rather than a technique: what CAP actually is, what it gives you, and the case for treating it as foundational precisely because it is not the interesting part of an application. Written in 2019, when that argument still had to be made, and the title is the argument. Also recorded as a Tech Aloud podcast episode and a CodeTalk, both linked from the post.published 2019-11-06